How To Reinvent Yourself Without Losing Your Soul | Angel Abitha Chi EP 223

She sold her home, gave away almost everything she owned, and travelled the world with just a suitcase and backpack — but the real journey wasn’t geographical. It was the journey back to herself.

In this deeply honest conversation, Angel Abitha Chi joins me to explore what it truly means to reinvent yourself without abandoning your soul. We talk about nervous system healing, shadow work, emotional sovereignty, and why highly sensitive people often mistake survival patterns for identity.

Angel shares her experience of leaving behind external ideas of “home” to build safety from within, along with the emotional process of decluttering not just possessions, but old versions of herself. From letting go of people pleasing to learning healthy boundaries, this episode is a powerful invitation to trust yourself more deeply.

We also explore:

• Shadow work and self-trust
• Nervous system healing for empaths and highly sensitive people
• The difference between intuition and anxiety
• Freedom vs escapism
• Grief, loss, and emotional healing
• Discovering her bisexuality and overcoming religious conditioning
• Feminine and masculine energy
• Leadership and visibility for sensitive women
• Building an “internal home”

Angel also opens up about the loss of her younger brother and how grief can expand our capacity to love rather than close us down.

If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by the world, disconnected from yourself, or afraid to fully be seen, this conversation will meet you with both compassion and courage.

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Transcript

Meeting Angel Abitha Chi

Angel Abitha Chi 1:19

The parts of you that need you need to find the light on it. Find the light on it. Come on, sister. Why do you do this? Why are you behaving like this? Why are you attempting this in your life? Just find the light on it. And it will inform you as to what you need to do now.

Anita Mattu 1:36

Today's guest is my dear friend and the fabulous Angel Abitha Chi. Hi. Shadow and Sovereign Coach, keynote speaker, and alchemist. So this isn't the first time you've been on the show, but we'll speak about that again in a moment. So, what is one of the most courageous things that you have done? Now, bearing in mind, I've known you for a few decades. Can you put that in one?

Angel Abitha Chi 2:09

Can I put it in one? My last time I talked about doing in a white. So since then, one of the most courageous things I've done is I gave up my home, sold a lot of films, and went traveling as a nomad around the world. And it was very courageous because I'm a Taurian, and Taurians love security and comfort.

Anita Mattu 2:33

Absolutely.

Angel Abitha Chi 2:35

Yeah.

Anita Mattu 2:35

And that goes nicely into my next question. A lot has changed since our first conversation, including your name, your work, and the way you've moved through the world. And so tell me who is Angel Abitha Chi?

Angel Abitha Chi 2:54

You know, it's been such an evolution. Getting in a work allows me to evolve. And as I have evolved, my name has changed. And that name has been given to me by my spirit guides and my ancestors. And I look for travel all the way to the continent of Africa to be given that name. And I I the energy of angel compared to what my name was is very different. And so I'm walking in that energy as uh a messenger from spirit, as uh an earth angel, I guess. Um, spreading my light more than anything. Yeah.

Anita Mattu 3:43

And that's really interesting because not only have you been on the show before, you were my first guest. Yes, I was, wasn't I? You know, I felt safe doing it with you, so I thought, let's give it a go.

Angel Abitha Chi 3:58

Yeah, I'm just so so proud to see how far your podcast has come along as well in Nita. It's just amazing to see. I'm so proud of you.

Anita Mattu 4:07

Thank you. Yeah. The last time we spoke, we explored deep shadow work and healing, like you've just said. What has evolved most within you since that conversation?

Angel Abitha Chi 4:19

So I would say that um I've become so comfortable being an empath now. As many people know, empaths are very, we're very like sponges. We have been absorb so much, and we've tried to do people pleasers along the journey. And but since since our last time, that has really been healed within myself. I am no longer a people pleaser, and it feels great. My nervous system is so regulated now as an empath, and I don't I have better boundaries, and it's all about the boundaries, so I I don't absorb, I I'm just able to be myself without absorbing other people's stuff like I used to, and the people pleasing, oh great, not being

From Empath To Boundaried

Angel Abitha Chi 5:16

a people pleaser.

Anita Mattu 5:17

Oh I can only imagine why move for sure.

Angel Abitha Chi 5:24

It was a big shift, it's such a big shift in my energy, my body, my spiritual um way of moving through different realities. Yeah, it's a huge shift and it just feels great. It feels so empowering, actually, really empowering. Yeah, I can imagine going home to you. That's it. Coming home to self. That's that's yeah, that's it actually. Yeah. It just feels great because as much as I can empathize for other people and what they're going through, especially before working in the field, I I don't have to get in there and no stuff. I can just sit back and allow them their own process and just facilitate their viewing, but also take care of me. It's also about really taking care of me and my my sensitivity, but and not seeing my so not seeing my sensitivity as a curse because that's what a lot of empaths feel. They feel it's a bit of a curse, but it's not a curse, it's such a gift. When you can become sovereign within that, it's a gift, it's such a gift.

Anita Mattu 6:39

Yeah. I love it already. We've only just got started. In 2024, you sold all your possessions and chose a life of global nomadism. What did you have to emotionally alchemize in order to let go of that version of your life?

Angel Abitha Chi 7:05

You know, it was such a big decision to make, and I remember so back then I was living in Walsham Aggie in a nice two and a half bedroom home. It was so luxurious, and you know, I enjoyed being there. But there was a calling to just go traveling, and I thought the best one for me to do that is to give up my home, sell a lot of my belongings, put a few things in storage, and go traveling. And so that's what I did. It was it was an emotional time because letting go of a lot of my stuff wasn't that easy. And in particular, we're going to go over

Letting Go Through Nomad Life

Angel Abitha Chi 7:51

this. In particular, my high heel shoes, I love high heel shoes, and I've worn high heel shoes since I was 13, and there's a story behind that. And when I put all my high heel shoes in, I put them in a black bag, bearing in mind, since COVID, I hadn't hardly worn high heel shoes because it was a struggle, but I still had them in my wardrobe. So I put them all in my black bag, to give them to um a philanthropist that I know. And they stayed in the black bag in my bedroom for about a month, and I keep walking over the shoes because I struggled to let them go. So I dug deeper and I recognized what those shoes meant to me. So wearing high-heel shoes meant me feeling powerful. And I realized, Angel, you don't actually need those shoes to feel powerful anymore. You are empowered already now. So let those shoes go. And I did. Um, I let them go. So there was a lot of there was still some emotional baggage attached to some of the things that I had. Even some of my work stuff, I was shredding for weeks. Shredding loads of paperwork that I I kept for no reason. So it was things great. Decluttering is an amazing thing to do because you realize I realize that I don't actually need the majority of things that I had. I didn't need them.

Anita Mattu 9:30

Absolutely. And I really understand that. And I totally get that heels would make you feel empowered as well. And it's realizing that actually, again, is external.

Angel Abitha Chi 9:42

Yes, absolutely. We don't need all the external stuff, you know. And yeah, as I was traveling, I I've hardly I've had one mincer suitcase, one small suitcase, and a backpack. And I just realized, wow, I've got everything that I need. Wow.

Anita Mattu 10:01

Was there a Pacific moment during your travels where you realized you were no longer seeking home externally? Um I guess so.

Angel Abitha Chi 10:13

You know, when I traveled to head town, I felt really settled then. It just felt like it felt like home actually. There were certain places that didn't feel so secure, but I just realized, okay, so there's certain places that my spirit, my body, can feel very comfortable in. So whenever I lay my hat or my spiritual at ease, that could be home for me. It could be home for me.

Anita Mattu 10:48

That's a beautiful thing.

Angel Abitha Chi 10:51

So it's just really about me feeling at home within myself, really, and trusting that my soul knows where I'm feeling safe. Because I don't know if you've heard of full-stroke photography, it's um

Redefining Safety As Inner Home

Angel Abitha Chi 11:07

it's uh something where you can put in your different time of birth, and it can tell you where you are most comfortable in the world, and yeah, so there's all of that going on as well.

Anita Mattu 11:22

I haven't heard as much as I thought then, because maybe I shall try that.

Angel Abitha Chi 11:27

Yeah, just photography is called students, yeah.

Anita Mattu 11:32

You speak beautifully about living in an internal home. How has your definition of safety changed through this journey? Because I know you just mentioned it there.

Angel Abitha Chi 11:43

You know, do you know what? Because I feel like coming back to my hometown, it's London, after traveling, I've not actually been in a permanent home. I've stayed with a friend for about 10 months and now I'm in a studio, and it's not permanent. But I've made it here somehow just to make wherever I am my home because I'm still at home internally. I don't feel like I need to be confined to very, very familiar four walls because I'm comfortable. You know, one of my friends, when I got back to the UK, one of my friends said to me, I really admire the way you've just started using London transport to get there, there, and everywhere. Because I used to have a car before I went traveling. I said, Well, I have no choice, I have to use London transport. And before I used to be very sticky about using London transport because of all the different energies, you know, beyond the cube. But now it it doesn't feel as stressful, it just feels fine because I feel like I I'm I'm managing my my own energy, internal energy, and I'm comfortable in that. It's really interesting.

Anita Mattu 13:01

Yeah, and that's the thing, isn't it? You're comfortable in it. It doesn't matter about the external, you're just doing your thing, whatever's going on is going on.

Angel Abitha Chi 13:11

Yeah, just and I I remember having to I remember always wearing crystals, I still wear crystals because I just love crystals, but a lot of the time I was wearing them for protection, especially if I was going out, I'd always put on a big chunky crystal, or I'd always have a crystal in my bra. Um, but now I don't actually use my crystals for that going out. I I if I'm wearing crystals, it's because I I dislike them. So I don't rely on that because I remember getting a message from Spirit saying, You are the medicine. You yourself, you don't need all these extra things because I'm the Oracle, I'm the medicine, it comes from within me.

Anita Mattu 13:55

So last time we spoke about going into the inner basement of shadow work, how has your relationship with your shadow changed while living without a fixed postcode?

Angel Abitha Chi 14:07

So it's changing that I've become more aware of some of the shadow, some of my shadow was still hiding because I actually wasn't ready to sue it. And so since I last saw you or last had the interview, I've actually discovered more about myself and my sexuality, and I'm too bisexual. And this I'm part of the rainbow, and it's something that I haven't actually announced it like this. This is the first time they meet up.

Anita Mattu 14:47

Yes, great show to be announcing it on.

Angel Abitha Chi 14:51

Does anyone want me to announce it anyway? I don't think because it's really personal. Um there was something that came to my awareness. It's

Shadow Work And Coming Out

Angel Abitha Chi 15:01

like now that I've come to a certain space in my life, my consciousness or my soul is ready to look at this part of me and to embrace this part of me. And once when when it finally dropped, I was like, oh yeah, that makes so much. So much wrong thing, it just made so much sense. I was like, well, look at that, and I just feel so comfortable now in in my sexuality, and there's a freedom in that, and I feel like, oh, I've been missing that all these years. But it's fine because everything happens in divine time, so yeah, just just um being so open to look at my shadow enables me to be who I am fully fully, and that's why I always say to people don't be scared of our shadow. Because if we run away from our shadow, if we don't want to look at our shadow, we're missing out on so much, and we shouldn't really be fearful of it. We should be courageous to look at our shadow.

Anita Mattu 16:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why do you think so many people do avoid that part of themselves? I know you just touched on it there.

Angel Abitha Chi 16:28

There's so much fear, I feel so many people live in fear. They don't, they don't, and you know, fear is kind of like the opposite of love, right? So if you're not loving yourself, then you're not able to look at all aspects of you. Then the the the darkness within us informs us, and so if we're not prepared to be informed by our darkness, how are we going to really expand and be the person that was supposed to be in this incarnation? And I feel like yeah, there's a lot of fear, there's also sometimes stigma because, for example, with myself, I grew up in a very strict religion, I was a Jehovah's Witness. So being bisexual is not something that they would accept, it would be frowned upon. So part of my psyche was definitely thriving that aspect of me because of all the religious dogma and brainwashing that I received. But when my brain or my subconscious was ready to accept that, and because I was open, this is a thing, being open-minded. Being open-minded, let's not live in fear because fear gets us nowhere. It really it just keeps people stuck in the same old routine, the life that one doesn't enjoy. You know, I always say, whatever you want is outside your comfort zone. Let's let's not live in that comfort zone.

Anita Mattu 18:05

Couldn't agree more. And that even for me, you know, being gay in Indian culture. It's not done. Like I said in my first interview, Benny like Beckham, the movie, you're Indian, you can't be gay. Yeah. I mean, that was brilliant. Anybody that hasn't watched it, do go ahead and watch it.

Angel Abitha Chi 18:25

I love that feel. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's um, yeah, but it does there's I always say what when you are able to do this work and look at your shadow and heal the shadow and be informed by it, it's you see the miracles start to happen in your life.

Anita Mattu 18:44

Yes. So, how do you maintain sovereign power and self-trust when everything around you are constantly changing?

Angel Abitha Chi 18:56

And that's such a big question, you know, because even now films could be jeptile, right? There's a lot of uncertainty, uncertainty right now in the world. There's a lot of chaos going on where really shifting into a new paradigm. But because I trust myself and I trust that I'm on the path with my clipus, I'm just holding faith. I'm just holding faith. I'm, you know, I take a leap of faith. You know, my my work has changed. I I'm trusting the universe, I'm trusting divine source that what is for me won't pass me by. And another thing on a more practical level, I maintain my boundaries. And that's that's the one thing about being sovereign is about your internal boundaries. The more I have my own internal boundaries, the easier it is for me to maintain those external boundaries with people, places, and things. So looking

Self Trust Through Chaos And Grief

Angel Abitha Chi 19:52

after myself, like radical, radical self-love. You know, the past year or two, I've really been focusing on looking after my body. I've spent many years doing the mind and the soul, and on and off the body, but in the last couple of years, I've really been focusing on the body and becoming more embodied as a spiritual being having a human experience. Because there was a part of me, to be fair, that didn't like being human. Because I found the human experience too, how am I gonna say, a bit painful at times, especially when I watch how humans behave and all the awful things that have happened, and then when I think about some of the awful things that have happened to me, you know, sometimes I'd be like, what's the point? I don't like being human. Um, but that got me nowhere. It got me nowhere. Um, so really becoming embodied and accepting you are a spiritual being, yes, but you're having a human experience, enjoy a human experience and just feel, just keep feeling those things that you know can get in the way.

Anita Mattu 21:07

Yeah, for sure. It's so interesting because it is tough. And especially if you come from where you keep having trauma and trauma and trauma, and you know, you kind of think, yes, it it's painful. So I can totally understand that.

Angel Abitha Chi 21:23

It's this right now. I'm kind of enjoying the human experience and all that it offers now, you know. Um, I did go through a really tough time when I got especially when I got straight back from traveling. My brother passed away, my younger brother. And it's like, yeah, thank you. And that was one of the most painful experiences for me. Um that I worked through it. I went back into therapy to deal with the grief and came out a lot stronger, actually. A lot stronger. It do you know what? Sometimes I sometimes say that when a loved one dies, they they create something for you. It's definitely always a more capacity for love, and because I see grief as limitless love, limitless love. And from my brother's passing, I grew, I grew a lot, yeah. And it was just such yes.

Anita Mattu 22:27

That's amazing, really amazing. And to be put put it into words like that, because that's really courageous as well. You know, you're really seeing the positive of everything and being able to embrace it. Yeah. Shy away. I mean, we're all we all get emotional, we all get upset. Of course we do. Yeah. But this is really a great thing and a great approach to it as well.

Angel Abitha Chi 22:52

I think so. And I think that in our society we don't we don't hold enough space for grief. You know, you know, if you're working in the nine to five, you're you're lucky if you get. A lot of time off to grieve your loved one. And sometimes some people say time is the healer. Not necessarily. It's what you do in that time as to whether you're going to heal from that grief. Many people are still holding on to grief because they haven't processed it. But when we process that grief, it can bring about amazing results. Yes, I was devastated. I was, I'm not even going to say angry. The rage that came out of me when my brother passed, answer my friends. Answer friends, they will tell you. But I need to devastate. Um missing dearly, absolutely. Feeling teared up now. But yeah, I did I I grew from that, from that experience, and I know he's I know he's with me. I know he's with.

Anita Mattu 24:03

Absolutely. And that's the thing, it gives us comfort. And they are the spirit still here. I'm a true believer in that.

Angel Abitha Chi 24:09

Yeah. Yeah. Spirit lives on. Yeah.

Anita Mattu 24:13

Yeah. As someone who works with sensitive and intuitive women, how has traveling the world reshaped your understanding and leadership in loud and demanding worlds?

Angel Abitha Chi 24:27

I honestly from my lived experience, I I know what it's like to be a mental and um to also be a leader, but not a leader that has been visible enough. And I feel like there's a there's a lot of um sensitives out there who are leaders in their own right, but they're hiding. And so walking through a lot of the shadow stuff has helped me to see that there's certain aspects, like for example, the um the masculine, the masculine aspect of us, if that is wounded, it's going to be very difficult for you to be visible. And so I'm I'm I'm recognizing now that many

Leading As A Sensitive In Noise

Angel Abitha Chi 25:20

sensitives are in a loud world, but they're not seen, they're not being seen, they're too squared, their nervous system isn't regulated so that they can be seen, and um, but they need to be seen. And so this is the kind of work that I'm doing now, looking at the masculine, the feminine, the mother wound, the father wound, the inner child, all of those aspects needing to be healed so that you can really truly be sovereign in your own right. And until those aspects are healed, integrated, working together in harmony, it's not going to be easy. So I I'm I'm very passionate about this type of work because I feel like many empaths, many sensitives need this because they're they're struggling in this this really chaotic, loud, harsh world, feeling really sensitive and and struggling, just struggling um on a day-to-day basis. So yeah, this this this work is special. I think it's special work, it's really it's it's needed as well.

Anita Mattu 26:30

It's definitely needed, and like you said, integrating all the parts. I think that's the thing, is actually allowing you to immerge them all together.

Angel Abitha Chi 26:40

Absolutely, absolutely, because there are maybe times when one is doing the work, do more work, like for example, and the people pins are my my feminine energy was doing too much, nurturing, nurturing, nurturing everybody, being there for everybody, you know, just that motherly love. And you know, I remember once my mother, my daughters um on Mother's Day, she's called me the mother to all. She's she's like a mother to all. And I bless her for that. But actually now, because I have better boundaries, because I feel that I'm I'm allowing my masculine energy now to come in and take more action, and they're integrating and working together. You know, I remember when was it in 2023? I think it was. I did I wrote a letter from my masculine to my feminine and a response from my feminine to my masculine, and it was just so deep work, and it was like, yeah, yeah.

Anita Mattu 27:48

It's how weaving, isn't it? Oh, I love the sounds of that.

Angel Abitha Chi 27:53

Yeah, it's um it's necessary because we need to be in balance, we need to we need to balance the two.

Anita Mattu 28:00

Did becoming a nomad reveal parts of yourself you didn't know were still waiting to emerge?

Angel Abitha Chi 28:07

Yes. The creative parts of me, they have been buried actually for many years because when I was younger, I always wanted to be, I always felt like I needed to be on the stage, I wanted to act. I did somebody in my 30s, and they had been buried because I was very busy doing a lot of the healing work on myself and also working in the field. So my creative side had kind of that expressive creative side had kind of gone. Yes, I was doing things like making jewellery and sewing and things like that as creative, but expressing creativity had died. So coming back from my travels helped me to embrace those aspects of me. Yeah, so when I brought back, I kind of I kind of went on a syllabic, still doing some of the healing work, just thinking that I wasn't going to be doing any more, but still had better plans. And I kind of plunged into creative stuff. So I I've done some modelling, I've done a bit of stand-up comedy, poetry, um, involved over work, those sorts of things, and and it's made me realize that actually I do belong on a stage before. Um and and and funny enough, spirit came through, got some messages saying, use your voice to heal, angel, use your voice to heal. And I realized that I need to be a public speaker, like really focus on that because I have done public speaking in the past, had very good feedback, and now I'm stepping forward now, more so as a public speaker, and really speaking into people's souls and the message of healing, the message of awakening, the message of evolution, and all of that kind of stuff. That's that's where I belong.

Anita Mattu 30:21

Of course. And I can actually see that with you. I've known you for like about two, three decades now, and yes, I really can. And that's your happy place, even I can see that. You know what it is?

Angel Abitha Chi 30:34

It is, I feel like when I'm when I'm in that space, I feel more fulfilled. It just feels like yes, this is this is how it's supposed to be. Um so yeah, that's what I'm that's what I'm pursuing now. Well, yeah.

Anita Mattu 30:53

This next question is really interesting actually, because I know I'm striving to have a life where I don't have to escape. And what has this season taught you about yourself about freedom versus escapism?

Angel Abitha Chi 31:09

Yeah, you know what? It's so interesting because I could have looked at my travels as escaping. But I wasn't escaping because even coming back, that took a lot of courage because coming back and being in a liminal space, not having someone turning them, that takes a lot of courage too. And so escaping is when you are trying to avoid things of you might be trying to avoid your own shadow, even so you might be avoiding responsibility. And if you're trying to escape, it's not gonna work. And even in terms of not wanting to be human, I was trying to escape that because living law in my head and it

Freedom Versus Escapism

Angel Abitha Chi 31:59

doesn't work, yeah, but having the freedom, freedom is so much so different. It's like I have the free because I feel so embodied, I have the freedom to be whatever I want and do what I want at any given time, but I'm still grounded in reality.

Anita Mattu 32:21

Yeah.

Angel Abitha Chi 32:22

Well, you're not escaped, you're not grounded in reality. You know, you may keep going on holidays, you may keep going out every weekend, you may keep drinking every weekend, you may keep partying every weekend, all these sorts of things you're escaping. What are you escaping? You if you keep trying to escape, you'll be forever running. Absolutely. Freedom is when you've looked at everything and oh the it's just amazing. Yeah, absolutely. It's so different. I could I remember the days when I used to drink, drink, drink, and that was an escape. It was an escape. Now I can go out, I can really enjoy myself being out socializing. Some people think I'm the drunk one because I enjoy myself so much. That's freedom. That's freedom.

Anita Mattu 33:14

I'm right there next to you on that one.

Angel Abitha Chi 33:18

Yeah.

Anita Mattu 33:19

Yeah. For women listening who feel called to reinvent themselves but are terrified to let go. What would you want them to know?

Angel Abitha Chi 33:29

The fear or the terror that you hold on to is really stopping you from living your best life. It's stopping you from living your best life. And it's keeping you stuck, it's keeping you in the same space, uh, not just physically, but mentally, emotionally, psychologically, and spiritually. So reinvent yourself, bring big, think about what it is that you wanted to do when you were a child, perhaps, you know. And are you doing that? Are you really living your true desires? You know? We have so many desires, and some people just take those to the grave. Reinvent yourself. Reinvent yourself. Don't take any regrets to the grave. When I pass, right, I actually I actually already feel like I've done what I've said I wanted to do. I already feel that way. And that's how you wanna, that's how you want to end your life, not with any regrets. Not in we're not gonna end our lives, but when you come to the end of your inclination in this body, you wanna say, I did it, I did everything I said I wanted to do, and I lived. I reinvent reinvent yourself. When I cut my hair off, I reinvented myself. Changed my name.

Anita Mattu 35:00

And I agree with you because even if anything was to happen, I'm happy with what I've done and what I haven't. You know, there is no there's a lot of people get scared of um dying. I don't even fear that. There is no fear. Yeah.

Angel Abitha Chi 35:17

No, I feel that people who fear dying, they'll actually fear living. That's a good one. Because you're not because people not living to your fullest capacity. I don't fear death at all. When it comes, it comes because I'm just enjoying my life, living my life. And I'm not saying my life is perfect. No, there are ups and downs, there are challenges, but on the whole, it's it's great.

Anita Mattu 35:52

Yeah.

Angel Abitha Chi 35:54

Because I feel comfortable within myself.

Anita Mattu 35:58

That's the key phrase there. That's the gold.

Angel Abitha Chi 36:04

That's the gold. Sovereign.

Anita Mattu 36:06

That's what means to be sovereign. So you are the author, Angel, of two or more books. I know you've got a lot of books, and I have copies of them. So tell me about your books. Hungry for Love, Journey of a Saarseed. Just to mention a few.

Angel Abitha Chi 36:22

Don't leave it in the main ones. There's also Foster and Future. So I'm currently updating those books as we speak with my new name. They've been out there for quite a few years under my previous name, Yvonne J. Douglas, but I'm updating them with my new name, Angel Abbot Q, and just a few edits in terms of endorsements and things. So those books I highly recommend people maybe wait a little while until the the two the ones with the new name are on. Yeah, it should be up and running within a week or two, so not too long from now. But Hungry for Love is the first one, and that is all about my journey from my childhood to and talk about all my dis all the

Books And What Sovereignty Means

Angel Abitha Chi 37:12

dysfunctions and all the traumas that I went through and how I managed to go through the healing process. They're quite narrowing, my books, but they are a good read. Many people many people have read my books in like one and two days. Um people have come back and told me. Um, and then Journey of the Starsing is about my journey from Christianity to spirituality. Um, so that goes into a lot more of the spiritual stuff, the the spiritual phenomena that I experienced as I went through my journey. And then trust your intuition is a little is a little workbook where I kind of get people to look at how how you learn to trust your intuition, because our intuition is so powerful. And again, when you start trusting yourself and your nervous system is regulated, your intuition is so much more on point. You know what is your intuition from what isn't. Some people get confused with intuition, anxiety, and butterflies. Yeah, there's there's there's a difference. So yeah, those those books are are out of there. Jonathan Starced was actually a bestseller in 2020 when I released it. So I'm really proud. I'm really proud.

Anita Mattu 38:28

Yeah. I'm proud of you. Thank you.

Angel Abitha Chi 38:32

Yeah, thank you.

Anita Mattu 38:34

So, what does sovereignty mean to you now versus five years ago?

Angel Abitha Chi 38:39

Do you know what's so interesting because on the evening journey to sometimes feel like oh I've not kind of melted, but I felt like I was in a really powerful place. And yes, I was. And so where I'm at now, it feels like it feels like I've gone full circle and come back right back to home to self. It just feels like I feel like it's more about that nervous system regulation and really feeling comfortable in my own skin and really embracing all parts of me. I am I am a multi-dimensional being, I am a multi-talented human being, I am bisexual, I am an emotional person, I'm a sensitive person, I'm an empath, I'm a mystical empath. I'm all of these, all of them. And so as I've come home to self, I feel like all parts of me have just kind of gone the jigsaw puzzles fit in nicely. I feel cold, I feel whole, and I can navigate in in both worlds, like very safely now. It's about safety, it's about feeling safe, feeling safe to be human.

Anita Mattu 40:03

Yeah.

Angel Abitha Chi 40:04

Yeah? Because when I mentioned that, I didn't really like being human for quite a while, especially when I discovered that I was a spiritual being having a human experience. I didn't really want, I thought, yeah, before I'm this powerful being, why do I have to be human then? Why do you want to god? Right? But now, with that integration of everything, it feels so much more comfortable. It just feels embodied. Yeah. That's what sovereignty is. And not being scared to be seen now. I do, I do feel as much as I'm quite a big character, there are times sometimes I can be a bit of an introvert. And I feel like there have been times when I've hidden, I've been hiding, and I've not been some when I look at some of the things that I used to talk about way back when, I just think people aren't even ready to hear this. Yeah, no, I've been talking about a lot of spinchar stuff for from the past decade or more, but everyone's talking about it now. So now I just feel like, yeah, I'm ready to be seen. I I'm I'm here for a purpose, and I'm gonna see that purpose through. Absolutely. Yeah.

Anita Mattu 41:21

What is something people misunderstand about shadow work?

Angel Abitha Chi 41:26

I think people feel that shadow work is because shadow denotes darkness. They feel like, oh, you shouldn't go there. Because it's dark, it's dark. But that's not what it's it's not that. It's it's it's just the parts of you that are hiding, the parts of you that need that you need to find the light on it. If you find the light on it, you're gonna get some answers to why you do this, why you behave like this, why you're attracting this in your life. Just shine the light on it, and it will inform you as to what it is you need to do now. That that's the misconception that it's darkness, it's the bad stuff, it's the it's the bad stuff, but it it's not. Yeah, it's not. It's the stuff that needs a bit of love, really. It just needs love.

Anita Mattu 42:15

And that is the misunderstanding part of it.

Angel Abitha Chi 42:17

Yeah, yeah. Needs the love, and and that's the thing that a lot of people tend not to have, or struggle, they struggle with, they struggle with the love and the compassion that they need for themselves, you know. Um, but when you allow yourself to be compassionate towards yourself, then you you make time for the shadow, you make time for yourself, you stop people pleasing. Yeah, just love yourself.

Anita Mattu 42:48

You know, you loving yourself has to come first, and people don't get that. I mean, you know, when you go on an airplane, they teach you how to put your oxygen mask on first. You know, there's a reason why we need to look after ourselves so we can give.

Angel Abitha Chi 43:02

Absolutely, and that's that's the problem with empaths as well. You know, a lot of empaths I find, and I think losses is we we pride ourselves in being empaths. We pride ourselves in the fact that we we help other people, but sometimes we've got to look at why are you people pleasing? Why are you helping people? Is it because you need validation? And oftentimes it is. You want that validation so much that you you're gonna help people, help people at your own detriment. But when you don't need that validation, because you validate yourself, it's a different ball game. It's a different ball game because ultimately people pleasers start resenting. Yeah, you do start to resent, and that's that's a tune of us to now is the time for me to do the work. When you're at that point of resentment, start doing the work.

Anita Mattu 44:03

Brilliant, I love that. What is one thing nomad life has said to you about human connection?

Angel Abitha Chi 44:11

Do you know what? No matter where you go, you take yourself with you. And if you're able to connect to yourself, if you're real truly connected to yourself, you can connect with anyone in the world. And even if you even if there's a language barrier, yeah, yeah. Love love is what you know, having that love around enabled me to just connect with people everywhere and just enjoy the the experiences, you know. Human beings we are amazing to a degree. There's my sarcasm coming in. Yeah. Human beings are amazing, and that love, that heart, as long as you've got that going on, you'll be fine.

Anita Mattu 45:07

Absolutely love it.

Connection Takeaways And Courage

Anita Mattu 45:09

Yeah. If there was one key takeaway you want every listener to walk away with today, what would it be?

Angel Abitha Chi 45:16

Be open-minded. Just be open-minded. Because when you open your mind, you grow. You're willing to learn. And you will grow, you will expand. Open your heart. So the world is open. Yeah, be open. Not too open so that the boundaries are you know, but contain your boundaries, but open your heart. We're living in a time now where it needs to be, it's going to be a heart-centered world.

Anita Mattu 45:51

Absolutely.

Angel Abitha Chi 45:52

Connect with your heart, open your heart, heal the heart from anything that has hurt you so that you can open your heart.

Anita Mattu 46:04

Fantastic. So where can the listeners find you online, your book, and connect with your work?

Angel Abitha Chi 46:12

Okay. So angelabatha.com is my website. I'm on social media platforms as Alchemic Angel. Alchemic is spelt with a K, not a C. I have a Substack as well. Angel Angel Tree substack where I write stuff and put some audios as well there and some meditations and things like that. So yeah, just maybe just Google me actually.

Anita Mattu 46:45

And all your links will be in the show notes as well. Right. Listeners, please do go ahead and connect.

Angel Abitha Chi 46:52

Yes. Um, so no, you I'm I'm there. I'm here. So if you want to book me to speak at an event, I'm here for it.

Anita Mattu 47:01

Thank you so much for coming back and sharing this next chapter of your journey with us. Watching your evolution from our first conversation to where you are now is incredibly powerful. And I know your honesty, wisdom, and courage will deeply resonate with so many other listeners. So thank you for the work you do, for the truth you share, and for the way you inspire people to trust themselves more deeply and live more courageously. I truly want to acknowledge you for the difference you're making. Angel Abitha Chi.

Angel Abitha Chi 47:41

Thank you. Gotcha, got it up. Thank you so much for having me on your show. Um I I yeah, just thank you. Um thank you.

Anita Mattu 47:58

And we are all about create the courage to be fearless podcast here. What is your definition of courage?

Angel Abitha Chi 48:05

My definition of courage is having the willness to be unbound, yeah, and to not feel not let fear restrict you um and limit you in about in a boundary, boundary place. So trusting the journey from trauma to sovereignty, from people pleaser to sovereignty, just trusting that bridge. That's what courage is for me.